
BRANDSTALK #162
Roy Coughlan
OWNER
PODFATHER
Is podcasting really the golden ticket to building a powerful brand or just another overhyped digital trend?
Millions start podcasts… but only a fraction survive.
So what separates the ones that fade from the ones that build enduring brands?
That’s exactly what I explored in this BrandsTalk conversation with Roy Coughlan, a seasoned serial entrepreneur, host of six top-ranking podcasts, and one of the most prolific voices in the podcasting industry.
Known as The Podfather, Roy has cracked the code on how podcasting can become a powerful vehicle for brand credibility, authority, and authentic connection but only when it’s built on purpose, not performance.
The Truth Behind the Mic
Podcasting has exploded globally, with over 4.5 million podcasts available and nearly 480 million active listeners in 2025.
Yet only about 10–15% of those podcasts are actually active.
Most shows fade after just a few episodes. Why? Because many people jump in chasing visibility or money, not meaning. They see podcasting as a shortcut to fame or revenue, rather than a marathon of authenticity.
Roy puts it simply:
“If you impact one person, it’s still worth doing. You never know when your voice becomes someone else’s lifeline.”
That’s not hype. That’s brand truth.
From Shy to Seen: Rewriting the Story of Visibility
Before Roy became “The Podfather,” he was the opposite of visible.
He was so shy that he couldn’t order a drink at a bar or speak in meetings without shaking.
His transformation began when he reframed his inner narrative, the story that said “I’m shy” into “I’m a speaker.”
Through Toastmasters, courage, and consistent practice, Roy evolved from a silent observer to a confident communicator.
That transformation mirrors what I often teach:
“The stories you tell yourself shape the stories others believe about you.”
Your inner brand identity defines your outer brand expression.
Podcasting isn’t just about speaking into a mic; it’s about speaking your truth into existence.
The Industry Reality Check: Podcasting Isn’t Saturated — It’s Selective
Despite millions of podcasts, Roy reveals that fewer than half a million are active.
So, rather than being “too late,” it’s actually the perfect time for purpose-driven voices to rise.
“Don’t think it’s saturated. If you have a message or a gift, share it. If you impact one person, it’s worth it.”
The brand insight here is simple:
Your voice doesn’t compete — it connects.
And connection, not perfection, builds brand loyalty.
Monetization Myths: The Slow Burn of Authentic Growth
Let’s get real. Podcasting isn’t a get-rich-quick model.
Roy dispels the fantasy of instant monetization:
“People look at Joe Rogan or Mr. Beast and think, ‘That’ll be me.’ But unless you’re pulling millions of downloads, you won’t see real ad revenue.”
Sponsorships pay just $10–$40 per 1,000 listens; not exactly a goldmine for most.
So, what is the winning strategy?
Use your podcast to build brand authority.
A podcast done right:
- Builds trust faster than advertising.
- Establishes you as a thought leader in your field.
- Opens doors to new clients, collaborations, and media visibility.
- Strengthens your overall brand credibility.
“Even if you never get a sponsor, your podcast gives you a competitive advantage. It’s proof of expertise.” — Roy Coughlan
Who Should — and Shouldn’t — Start a Podcast
Roy’s view is refreshingly direct:
“Podcasting isn’t for everyone, and that’s a good thing.”
Start a podcast if:
- You have a clear message, mission, or expertise to share.
- You’re ready to commit for at least a year.
- You’re passionate about learning, connecting, and growing through conversation.
Don’t start a podcast if:
🚫 You expect fast fame or easy money.
🚫 You’re not prepared to handle the consistency, editing, and promotion it takes.
As Roy explains:
“Most people quit after three episodes because they underestimate the work. But for those who stay the course, the rewards are transformational.”
The Algorithm of Attention: Social Media for Podcast Growth
Roy shared battle-tested strategies for amplifying podcast reach while staying true to your brand voice:
- Repurpose everywhere. Post your full videos on YouTube, your audios on Spotify, and short clips across LinkedIn, TikTok, and Instagram.
- Prioritize engagement over vanity metrics. Ten real conversations beat ten thousand empty likes.
- Stay consistent. “When you stop posting, your audience moves on.”
- Collaborate. Podcasting thrives on community, not competition.
“Podcasters lift each other up. We recommend guests share ideas and grow together. That’s how brand communities are built.”
Authenticity, collaboration, and discipline: these aren’t just marketing tactics.
They’re the modern brand’s foundation.
Mistakes That Made the Master: Roy’s Lessons in Branding
Roy’s candid about his journey and his mistakes:
- Never ghost your audience.
When he took an unannounced break, listeners vanished.
→ Lesson: Consistency builds trust; silence breaks it. - Don’t skimp on visuals.
A “crappy logo” cost him early momentum until he rebranded and shot to #1 in the charts.
→ Lesson: Design is the silent storyteller of your brand. - Stay curious and adaptive.
Roy constantly tests software, thumbnails, and formats.
→ Lesson: Branding is iteration, not perfection. - Prepare with intention.
“Don’t wing it,” he warns. “Your listeners can tell.”
→ Lesson: Preparation is the highest form of respect for your audience. - Own your brand values.
“People are always watching. Even if they never comment, they’re observing.”
→ Lesson: Integrity is your strongest marketing strategy.
The Future of Podcasting and Brand Storytelling
What’s next for podcasting?
Roy predicts the rise of video podcasting and cross-platform storytelling, as Spotify and YouTube blur the lines between watching and listening.
But with growth comes risk.
“Never rely on one platform. Back up your files. Own your audience. Protect your data.”
That’s not just digital advice, it’s brand resilience.
The most powerful brands are built not only on reach, but on control, clarity, and consistency.
Bullet Points of Truth — The Podfather’s Branding Wisdom
- Podcasting isn’t hype — it’s a human connection tool.
- Authenticity beats algorithms.
- Don’t start to make money — start to make meaning.
- Consistency is your currency.
- Sound is trust — your voice is your brand.
- Don’t outsource your essence.
- Brand presence is 360°.
- Protect your content and audience data.
- Podcasting is leadership training in disguise.
- Your voice is your legacy. Use it intentionally.
So, Is Podcasting the Ultimate Brand-Building Tool?
The verdict: It depends on your intention.
If you’re chasing downloads, maybe not.
If you’re building trust, visibility, and human connection: absolutely.
Podcasting isn’t hype. It’s heart-led branding.
It’s how we give our message a voice, our mission a medium, and our audience a reason to believe.
“Your voice is your most powerful brand asset. When used with intention, it doesn’t just sell — it shapes. It transforms.” — Dr. Brigitte Bojkowszky
Final Thought
Podcasting isn’t just about broadcasting — it’s about brandcasting: sending your purpose, energy, and message into the world — one authentic conversation at a time.
Because in the end, it’s not the loudest voice that wins.
It’s the one that resonates.
🔗 Tune into this episode on all major podcast platforms! Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Google Podcasts, etc…
or listen on Buzzsprout:

📹 Watch us Live

Get in touch with Roy Coughlan:
- https://roycoughlan.com/
- https://va.world/
- https://braingym.fitness/
- https://www.facebook.com/roycoughlan
- https://x.com/poleire
- https://www.instagram.com/awakening.podcast/
- https://www.youtube.com/@roycoughlan
Time Markers:
01:37 Roy Coughlan’s Journey from Shyness to Public Speaking
05:32 The Importance of Toastmasters
07:12 Diving into the World of Podcasting
13:53 Monetization Myths and Realities
18:33 Building a Podcast as a Brand Tool
22:09 Leveraging Social Media for Podcast Growth
26:31 Effective Social Media Strategies for Podcast Promotion
28:50 Leveraging TikTok for Podcast Growth
32:41 The Importance of Consistency and Quality in Podcasting
39:41 Future Trends and Challenges in Podcasting
41:40 Rapid Fire Session: Insights and Reflections



